[lionkor]

You have to be incredibly incompetent and naiive to look at the absolute garbage theatre that AI outputs today to go "yeah this will write all future code".

Usually the response, for the last years, has been "no no you don't get it, it'll get so much better" and then they make the context window slightly larger and make it run python code to do math.

What will really happen is that you and people like you will let Claude or some other commerical product write code, which it then owns. The second Claude becomes more expensive, you will pay, because all your tooling, your "prompts saved in commits" etc. will not work the same with whatever other AI offer.

You've just reinvented vendor lock in, or "highly paid consultant code", on a whole new level.

[neversupervised]

Can you explain what you think will happen, actually? People at OpenAi and Anthropic aren’t longer coding by hand. Are you saying everyone changes their mind and goes back? Not gonna happen. You have to work around this new constrain.

[lionkor]

Yes, I'm saying that the companies who's entire business model is selling you AIs are not a reliable source. And of course, again, if you are competent, you can see that AI only generates passable outputs when guided or when the scope is small. This guiding only works when there is a human operator.

You're all being fooled by emergent behavior, which acts like intelligence, but really doesn't fool people who are familiar with how to write code.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how to say this without sounding elitist, but the goal post has not moved since GPT 3. These tools, autonomously, produce code that only fools the clueless. I don't know how else to put it and I'm getting really tired of this argument that "look, company with billions and some of the buggiest shittest software is using AI to write it". No shit they are.

So what's going to happen? We will see the same divide we've seen with JavaScript. It's new, then everyone says it's what everyone must use. C++ developers no longer needed--its all JS now. No need for native UIs, it's all JS now. If you're not learning the latest web tech, you'll miss out and fall behind. If you're studying for anything but web, you'll be out of a job in 5 years. And now, a couple decades later, we are still waiting for it.