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by threethirtytwo 94 days ago
It's a good analogy to comfort yourself. But remember AI is now being deployed on the frontline of mathematics and coming up with new theories.

The reality is much more stark then your description. Yes, in MANY instances it fails at things you know and you're an expert at. But in MANY instances it also beats you at what you're good at.

People who say stuff like the parent poster are completely mischaracterizing the current situation. We are not in a place where AI is "good" but we are "better". No... we are approaching a place of we are good and AI is starting to beat us at our own game. That is the prominent topic that is what is trending and that is the impending reality.

Yet everywhere on HN I see stuff like, oh AI fails here, or AI fails there. Yeah AI failing is obvious. It's been failing for most of my life. What's unique about the last couple years is that it's starting to beat us. Why? Because your typical HNer holds programming as not just a tool, but an identity. Your skill in programming is also a status symbol and when AI attacks your identity, the first thing you do to defend your identity is to bend reality and try to cast to a different conclusion by looking at everything from a different angle.

Face Reality.

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I think that's a category error. Current AI is not better or worse than us but fundamentally different. Its main strength and weakness is that it knows too much about everything. It usually knows more than the user about the topic at hand, but it doesn't know what is actually relevant in that particular situation.

If you nudge the AI in the right direction, it may surprise you with what it's capable of. But if you nudge it in a wrong direction or just don't give it sufficient context, it can be very confidently wrong.

Yeah this is another way to comfort yourself. Yes AI is different but again FACE reality.

Ai is different but it is also similar, for example it can speak language. So it is different and similar at the same time. I am obviously referring to AI beating us where we are similar to it. Best example: software engineering. This is obvious. The fact that I need to spell it out shows how deep the delusion goes.

The rest of your response is just regurgitating what the parent post said. Sure. But it doesn’t address the fact that while everything you said is true part of the time the other part of the time it beats us (that includes both nudging and no nudging it in the right direction).

Additionally all of this is also completely ignoring the fact that AI leap frogged in capability in the past year with my entire company now foregoing the use of text editing or using IDEs and having Claude write everything. If what you say is true only now and we see this much velocity in improvement then wait a couple more years and everything you said can be completely false if the trendline continues.

And here’s the craziest part. Everything im saying is obvious. I’m basically being captain obvious here. The question is why are so many people in total denial.

So you do not need a text editor anymore, the LLM writes everything? That is not my experience. My experience is that it is for sure much smarter than i am, but still i need to hand-hold it to ensure the code stays readible and the amount of code does not blow up in relation to the actual use case. It usually does not know enough about the actual problem space. It's also not so good at keeping the correct abstractions at the correct place of the code architecture. When not hand-holding, at a certain point the codebase becomes unmaintainable be human nor LLM.
That’s not just my experience. That’s the experience of everyone where I work. Nobody uses a text editor anymore at my company.

We still hand hold it a bit. If it makes a mistake we just tell it to fix the mistake or do it in a different way. It’s that good.

You already stated the reason you think why so many people are in total denial. If indeed the reason is indeed a sense of threat to what people take themselves to be then I would be very surprised if the response would have been any different. Whether this indeed is the case is what remains to be seen. I for one do believe there is something different going on here than yet another technological advancement, but again - time will tell
It's an interesting parallel to, especially right wingers, want project intelligence into 1 dimension so things all humans can be ordered from inferior to superior. That logic was already strained with humans, but with the introduction of AI the wheels are really coming off for that model.
I am pretty sure this comment, as many others of the same poster were LLM-generated with slight prompt tweak, which is against TOS. Check their history for proofs.