[massysett]

Ok, presume it is. Why is this a useful observation? The author still needed to poke and prod the LLM to produce useful information. She still needed to know what questions to ask and prompts to give, and hopefully steered it right when it made up falsehoods.

I’ve used CL for years and the layered model fits with my experience yet I never conceived of it exactly that way. It’s useful. So what if an LLM wrote it?

[jadefox]

If it helps, the article “evolved” so I don’t really care that LLM’s had a part to play. I am setting up a development environment for Mezzano, the Common Lisp OS after getting it running on ARM64. I needed to understand the full CL toolchain to build an AI agent harness that could talk to Mezzano.

I figured out I could do this via SWANK. But kept hitting the same problem, the information about how all the pieces fit together is scattered across dozens of sources and nobody as far as I can tell had put a complete layered map in one place. Which I kind of already had from all the conversations and research I’ve been doing so I glommed it all together and posted it to r/lisp.

BTW the lisp community have been really helpful so I incorporated and continue to add all the corrections and pointers people have been giving. Case in point someone above pointed out vend which is an interesting approach that might be useful for my lisp harness project.

[HexDecOctBin]

When I read an article, I am expecting to read the author's own experiences and insights they gained from them. Not the regurgitation of an industrial scale word generator.

> She still needed to know what questions to ask and prompts to give

Then publish the prompts. Let me enter them in an LLM of my choosing and see what bullshit it hallucinates and diff it against the 'article'.

> hopefully steered it right when it made up falsehoods.

"Hopefully"? Publishing something a stochastic parrot dreamed up under your name is ghost writing at best and spreading misinformation at worst.

[jadefox]

The "insight" that I needed a map, and that I had effectively created a map from my research, reading and "prompting" was mine, but I have no problem with using fancy tooling to help me pull it all together.

If someone could've pointed me to some other fully laid out mapping of the CL tooling stack I would've been happy as the article was a rather time consuming side quest.

[__patchbit__]

> something a stochastic parrot dreamed up

With more time and energy, human discovery and invention, the statistical mechanics backing the information digest will improve beyond any one human's lifetime internalization and idiosyncratic writings divined.

[HexDecOctBin]

> will improve

If only I was capable of such divination.

[ozim]

What I do see is somewhat curated cache of what stochastic parrot dreamed of so I don’t have to burn tokens myself.

As I understand author is interested in the topic and didn’t simply publish total hallucinations.

[jadefox]

Author here. Deeply interested but not an expert by any means happy to have saved anyone a few tokens. I have done my best to fact check the content and the people on r/lisp have contributed a ton of corrections that I incorporated into revised edits. Always welcome constructive inputs if you have spotted any mistakes let me know.

[ozim]

Hi well you see it doesn’t matter how many times you will repeat „I am not an expert I did it for myself and just sharing in case someone else would be interested”.

Assholes will come out of woodwork claiming only experts are allowed to post anything online.

My point is, stop being apologetic as it only eats your energy and DGAF about such comments as the top one I replied to.

[jadefox]

Thank you! Point taken and appreciated. Time is better spent on producing better materials. I have made a short version of the post as the primary article being too long was a valid criticism.