[DANmode]

Okay, finally unraveled your comment:

you’re saying the complaint is that in that era it was also thought of as a new phenomenon.

That makes some sense - it’s been a declining slope, with a huge drop-off point.

But was there also evidence of less-competent people coming out of the end of the machine that’s supposed to produce people to keep the civilization functional?

Probably happened at one time or another - but it was probably also considered a problem……

My original “as a default” verbiage is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but is there for a reason.

[kelseyfrog]

I'm so sorry. But consider that you're simply wrong.

[DANmode]

I have considered that,

but I’m still wholly unconvinced,

due to your abandonment of the thread after a drive-by effort.

[kelseyfrog]

Huh? The validity of my take is based on some rule you have in your head? What I'm seeing is someone who is desperate to be right.

Everyone for the last 2000 years has expressed the same sentiment you did.

They all feel exactly the same way. The parsimonious explanation is that this is a bias that develops as we age and like any bias, we're especially blind to it and deny its existence as evidenced in this thread.

I know it doesn't feel good to realize you have a bias, but that rational thing is to understand it and account for it. That too is part of growing older.

[DANmode]

> What I'm seeing is someone who is desperate to be right.

I’m desperate to understand what your point is - if it’s that I’m just another old fogie biased against the next generation, then you couldn’t be more mislead.

I’m desperate to have a conversation, for the good of this community. That’s what we’re here for.

> Everyone for the last 2000 years has expressed the same sentiment you did.

I’m not expressing a sentiment. We all are. Entire classrooms of kids are ignoring the authority figure as a default.

That’s the topic in TFA.

It’s…not my opinion. Or a sentiment. Or subject to bias.

Whatever bias you think I’m showing: you should name it! I don’t even know what sort of fallacy you’re accusing me of!

Growing older isn’t accepting someone sneering vaguely and unproductively at you.