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by bdcravens 85 days ago
Very true. It's not like EV owners were feeling regret when gas hit the (mythical ) $2/gallon. Honestly, while it's fun to know I've "saved" $5k or so in gas costs during the 4 years I've owned my EV, if saving money was my only goal, I would have paid cash for a slightly used efficient four cylinder gas car.
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mikestew 85 days ago
It's not like EV owners were feeling regret when gas hit the (mythical ) $2/gallon.

Gas could be free, and I'd still have no regrets. Because an EV is simply the better vehicle. And I think after over a decade of mass-produced EVs that maybe it's time to get away from "saves on gas" or "good for the environment", and maybe start marketing as "full every time you pull out of the garage", or something. Kind of like Mazda's old commercials for their Wankel engine cars: "piston engine goes 'boing', but the Mazda goes 'hmmmmm'".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHzeGEHWMjo

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macintux 85 days ago
I'd be more interested in EVs if they didn't come with significant privacy and complexity trade-offs.

I don't want a door handle that can't open in an emergency. I don't want my vehicle constantly phoning home to the mothership (sadly I have to deal with that today, I really need to go disable that functionality). I certainly don't want a touchscreen through which all controls are routed.

I have a 20-year-old Jeep with significant mechanical problems; I should really convert it to a BEV.

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mikestew 85 days ago
I'd be more interested in EVs if they didn't come with significant privacy and complexity trade-offs.

You're going to be really disappointed when you go to look at new ICE vehicles. This "EVs are a privacy nightmare!" trope needs to die, all cars do that now.

I don't want a door handle that can't open in an emergency.

Only one car manufacturer to my knowledge has that problem, just don't buy one of those. Again, nothing to do with electric cars.

I certainly don't want a touchscreen through which all controls are routed.

So far, other than the poorly-designed door handles of one manufacturer, nothing you've listed is unique to EVs. All you've done is describe "most new cars".

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macintux 85 days ago
I understand modern vehicles are like that, hence my complaint about my current one.

But, by definition, most EVs are modern. That's not true of ICE vehicles, hence the tradeoffs.

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mikestew 85 days ago
Fair enough, point taken.
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