[Sammi]

As a paying customer, it just doesn't feel good that they are trying to pass off someone else's model as their own.

I mean I guess this is what businesses do all the time. There's a term for it even, it's called white-labeling.

But is this all that Cursor have? They pass of VS Code as their own, they pass off Kimi as their own... What do Cursor even do? What do I need them for?

[jstanley]

As a paying customer, I don't care where the model comes from, I only care how good it is.

[Sammi]

Sure, and also at what price point.

But can I rely on Cursor to be able to keep delivering, when they aren't the one's doing the work themselves?

[827a]

Can you ensure that Notion is able to keep delivering given they don't develop their own models? Lovable? OpenCode? Should we be worried that Discord might disappear because they don't run their own data centers? Personally, I'm very concerned that one day Google might just have to close up shop, because while they do design their own chips, they don't fabricate them in-house; and don't get me started on TSMC and their critical dependency on ASML, they might as well just lock the doors.

[acmj]

Well, they can keep stealing as long as someone open weight their models.

[manojlds]

And how cheap it is

[khuey]

White-labeling may be slightly dishonest to the consumer but the manufacturer and distributor are honest with each other. That doesn't appear to be the case here (Kimi's license requires publicly acknowledging Kimi is used for anyone operating at Cursor's scale).