[killme2008]

Claude caught up pretty quickly. I think OpenClaw’s core value is the channel, heartbeat, and the open-source ecosystem.

[awwaiid]

Yes -- this is getting very close to ClaudeClaw. Next they'll offer cloud hosting of persistent execution.

[operatingthetan]

I would rather they build something similar to openclaw than all these individual features that replicate functionality.

[gusmally]

Maybe it's less risk for them to offer the individual features. That way if people get inadvertent results, it's easier to blame the user, not the tool/company

[lxgr]

OpenClaw's core achievement is that it was first, and that's not a moat.

The code/product itself is an absolute nightmare of overengineering, riddled with bugs and undocumented behavior changes across versions.

[sanex]

And unfortunately I think hearbeats are a little cost prohibitive. I burn through my plus plan with half hour cadence heartbeats checking email.

[theshrike79]

All *Claw implementations should use a local model for heartbeat, it doesn't need to do anything complex, pretty much just read a text file and do a true/false decision if there's something in there to do when it wakes up.

If so, it can either just shove the full heartbeat file to a smarter model or try to intelligently spread the tasks to the correct models.

[djeastm]

Heartbeat should be set to be a cheaper model.

[tekacs]

I mean you can just use /loop in both Claude Code and Codex for heartbeats.