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by esperent 88 days ago
> Anthropic has two different products that are relevant here: the Claude API and Claude Code.

No, the two relevant products are Claude API vs Claude subscription. There's no "Claude Code subscription". There's just a subscription for all Claude services at once.
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bloody-crow 88 days ago
The $20/mo Pro subscription only allows regular chat and Claude Code and does not allow you to export your API key without reverse engineering CC. The higher tiers allows console and direct API usage.

Basically, the concept of Claude-Code having its own API tier holds.

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lxgr 88 days ago
Really? I thought API key usage was always billed per token, not via monthly allowances?
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skeledrew 88 days ago
There're keys for users to access their public API with whatever they want, and there're tokens for Claude Code to access their private API.
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esperent 88 days ago
Which one is OpenCode using?
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coldtea 87 days ago
Allows both, the second Anthropic doesn't want them too.
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skeledrew 86 days ago
The private, which they shouldn't be.
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skeledrew 88 days ago
Their ToS says differently. You can't argue with what's explicitly in their legal agreement.
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bean469 88 days ago
> You can't argue with what's explicitly in their legal agreement.

Sure you can, that's what courts are for

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skeledrew 86 days ago
A case like this would immediately get thrown out because it makes no sense to argue it. Can be considered frivolous.
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esperent 88 days ago
Sure you can. TOS docs are full of non legally enforceable wishful thinking bullshit, especially when they're written by an American company providing services to me in Europe. Most of the time they just expect (correctly) that they'll never get challenged in court over it.
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skeledrew 86 days ago
Even if it isn't enforceable from a usage perspective, it is from a provider perspective, meaning they can also simply deny their service to anyone they discover breaking said terms. And there's nothing anyone can do about it.
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coldtea 87 days ago
>You can't argue with what's explicitly in their legal agreement

Sure I can. I can even contest it in court (if I had the money).

Some "legal agreements", TOS, etc. are even unenforceable and blatant abuses of the law.

And what's more, I can even consider ALL such legal agreements bogus and demand that the law changes to now allow them.

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skeledrew 86 days ago
> Some "legal agreements", TOS, etc. are even unenforceable and blatant abuses of the law.

Good luck trying to classify this one as such. There's no valid argument given the fact that users are attempting to gain access to an offer in a way that isn't applicable to them. It's tantamount to deception and stealing, going somewhere you were not invited as though you were and taking something that wasn't given to you.

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