[thangalin]

> LLMs are not actually doing a great job of translating ideas into tangibly useful software

Here is the source code for a greenfield, zero-dependency, 100% pure PHP raw Git repository viewer made for self-hosted or shared environments that is 99.9% vibe-coded and has had ~10k hits and ~7k viewers of late, with 0 errors reported in the logs over the last 24 hours:

https://repo.autonoma.ca/repo/treetrek

[BoorishBears]

https://repo.autonoma.ca/repo/treetrek/blob/HEAD/pages/Templ...

Did it really have to be zero-dependency...

[dvfjsdhgfv]

Frankly, I created dozen of such projects in the last weeks. Recently I just deleted them all. I feel like there's no point. I cancelled my Claude subscription, too.

I got back learning from books and use LLMs for "review my code in depth and show me its weak points" occasionally.

[baq]

LLMs in teacher mode instead of solver mode can be great. ("review this change" is kinda sorta teacher mode.)

[tovej]

How is this greenfield?

[thangalin]

How is it not?

You can trace the back commits to the first to show that it was started from scratch:

https://repo.autonoma.ca/repo/treetrek/commits/c7742cb3c580d...

[tovej]

It's using a mature data model from an existing framework (git), and it's essentially a simpler clone of other similar projects.

That's brownfield to me. Greenfield would develop a completely new system. This is a utility for an existing system, one whose design is clearly a copy of existing utilities. Both of those make this brownfield.

[thangalin]

I'm building something from scratch, with no existing code base, and no requirement to integrate with or extend an existing implementation. The only constraint is Git's raw file format. Brownfield, to me, means constraints from existing software. It gets a little fuzzy, but no existing code base was used, no existing architectural constraints were imposed, and I was free to design the implementation from scratch; a greenfield implementation of a legacy protocol.

[tovej]

You are using git's data model. And all you're doing is visualizing it. It's not greenfield.