[fla10212]

The natural gas field strike very conveniently increases the EU dependencies on US LNG. The diversification via Qatar had already been shut down, now Israel drives the Iranian gas buyers to compete on the world market.

It is a great plan. The Gulf Monarchies are weakened (that is what you get for your Trump bribes ...), the EU is weakened, and the US controls all energy flows.

China can use the land route to Russia. The EU is going to commit economic suicide instead.

[loudmax]

> It is a great plan.

Let's be real here. Nothing this administration ever does is planned.

[fla10212]

The plans to destabilize Syria and Iran have existed since the Obama administration. Trump is just the hatchet man.

[krior]

There is a stark difference between planning something and actually doing it.

[DANmode]

Every figurehead plays their part.

[fla10212]

The Syria part was quietly executed under Biden, whose administration deserves full credit. "Destabilizing" means fragmenting, I'm not saying that Assad was any good of course.

[orwin]

Syria was in a civil war since 2015. The US (and Israel and Russia) failed to control their intelligence assets on the ground. Sadly we don't have Hillary's emails like for Lybia, so I can't mock France DGSE for loosing their asset, and control over the rebels, within two weeks.

In Syria it might have taken years, but considering the reaction of the US, Israel and Russia to the sudden Syria push, I guarantee the admin in power wasn't informed. What is more likely is that they lost actionable assets during COVID. At best the CIA was aware but didn't inform Mossad not the US, but that would be giving them a lot of credit.

[onedognight]

> Nothing this administration ever does is planned.

You are joking, right? Project 2025 has achieved 50% of its goals in record time[0]. Trump disavowed both it and invading Iran, but make no mistake. Both were “the plan”.

[0] https://www.project2025.observer/en

[yubblegum]

"this administration" is not running the show. This is going exactly according to someone else's plan.

After the dust settles:

- GCC is knocked down a few notches and that oil and gas money is no longer competing for influence

- US is out of MENA and Centcom will return to Florida; there is no way Arab governments will let US rebuild its bases in their countries. See burning infrastructure, airports, and decimated trade in tourism, air travel, hitech, ... You thought the Orange One thought up the idea of burning all our aliances, pissing off Europe, alarming Asia allies, and making "fortress America" all by his lonesome? Really?

- Israel will be lording it over the area. Maybe they will start having bases on Arab lands.

- China will be at the mercy of whoever now controls Middle East

- Project 2025 is really about controlling us natives here in America when the coin finally (dear lord) drops over here.

[epistasis]

Great plan for whom? Trump is headed towards Nixon levels of popularity and Nixon methods of ejection with this sort of stuff. The war is hugely unpopular, Trump is less popular, and if gasoline prices stay high and we get involved in a ground war there may be a popular revolution even before Democrats get elected and are able to impeach.

Deals done in Yuan will still get through Hormuz. EU could switch currencies for fossil fuels, get their energy, and further lessen their dependence on a US that expresses nothing but hate and disgust for the EU.

[spankalee]

Popularity doesn't matter. The only thing that will remove Trump from office is Jan 20th 2029.

[epistasis]

Popularity is the core of everything in a democracy. The reason Republicans are terrified of Trump and fall in lockstep is that Trump can get rid of them via primaries, and that requires Trump's popularity with a small but rabid MAGA base. But Republicans in 2028 will have to survive an election without Trump bringing that base to the ballot.

If Trump's popularity falls to Nixon levels, and the MAGA coalition continues to fracture at the current rate it's falling apart, within a year or tow, there could very well be 60 votes in the senate that go against Trump.

[bluGill]

That is probably when he leaves office - but congress can stop a lot of things he is doing if they try.

[mkoubaa]

Nixon method of ejection indeed.

He did say he wanted regime change after all

[SV_BubbleTime]

EU has had a lot of time to recognize the situation they have been in regarding energy.

Sorry, but this will never not be not amusing. Where Trump being a stopped clock warns the UN about relying on foreign energy and the German delegation laughs as they were shutting down their nuclear and increasing reliance on Russia for energy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg

[1718627440]

> EU has had a lot of time to recognize the situation they have been in regarding energy.

There is no case of they just needed to pay attention earlier. The problem is known. There is just no good solution. Drastically scaling back energy consumption isn't going to happen any time soon and would harm the economy. So we can choose between Russia, the Middle East and the USA. Best would be of course to reduce fossil use, but that is orthogonal.

[CamperBob2]

There is just no good solution.

Refraining from shutting down their nuclear plants for no good reason would have been a start.

[triceratops]

That's not a solution. A solution is something you can actually do.

[PolygonSheep]

They can restart them and/or build new ones. Fission isn't some lost technology like Greek fire or Damascus steel.

[DANmode]

Damascus steel…isn’t a lost technology.

Are you willing to share where you heard that?

[triceratops]

> They can restart them

Can they?

> build new ones

That'll take 20 years.

[SV_BubbleTime]

Ok, now balance your response with the image of them laughing at dumb old Trump being a dumb dumb.

[fla10212]

Trump? The same Trump that threatened Greenland while the EU is relying on US LNG? Indeed the EU should not rely on US energy.

Trump is completely inconsistent anyway. First he blamed the EU for wanting to continue the Ukraine war. Then he periodically floats lifting Russia sanctions. But if the EU were to lift Russia sanctions, that of course would lead to severe repercussions.

Trump is about economic suppression of the EU.

If you say "nuclear energy". The US has imported Russian uranium to at least 2025.