[skeeter2020]

I have seen a huge decline in data first over the past decade-plus; maybe related to a lot more pragmatic training where code-first and abstraction helped you go faster, earlier but I definitely came of age starting with the schema and there are an awful lot of problems & systems that essentially are UI and functions on top of the schema.

[danielmarkbruce]

UI + functions on top of schema if you've designed the schema well. Otherwise, it's a whole other thing.