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Betting on which card will be on top of a freshly shuffled deck is pure gambling. It is a game of pure chance.

Betting on sports is not pure chance. If I play a game of tennis against roger federer, I am sure to lose. I can predict this event with 100% certainty.

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Bitcoin up or down is another non-chance event. I can easily sway the price of bitcoin by just buying some.

Recently there was a market to predict how long the US government shutdown would last. This is not gambling--you can look at historical data of shutdown durations and form a prediction based on researching each politician's views.

Sure, an idiot might gamble by just picking an option at random, but the game itself isn't gambling because it's not a game of pure chance.

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Okay. So by that logic poker is gambling but not "pure" gambling. Fair enough.

So as previously stated I can tell the difference but still have no idea what point you were originally trying to make. Prediction markets are still a form of gambling however impure, no? Just as betting on a horse race is.

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Is the bookie gambling on the race? Is Jim Simons? Gambling is not innate to the games themselves, it's only gambling if the player chooses to treat it like a game of pure chance.