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by throw310822
98 days ago
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> If we cannot agree that nobody should chant Nazi songs ever again This is a strawman, we agree on this and this discussion is about someone being investigated in Germany for using Hitler's picture to attack and criticise another dictator. (Though to be true, I am more concerned about people acting as nazis, whatever songs from whatever country they might be chanting). > People are rediscovering fascism and nationalism as seducingly simple answers to complex questions I agree, but I think that this is, also, the result of turning the memory of the past in a set of empty rituals that are used to secure the exact opposite of their stated goal: continued support for the oppressors of today and open, shameless contempt for their victims. |
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I'm not sure we are, given that this specific thread is about some people claiming Holocaust remembrance (and German limits to free speech when it comes to that topic) is akin to a religion, which doubts it at best and mocks it at worst.
> someone being investigated in Germany for using Hitler's picture to attack and criticise another dictator.
That is not what happened though. The Swastika is a prohibited symbol in Germany for a reason. Also, this investigation is pretty much guaranteed to be dropped because it's obvious to any sane person that Mr. Zitelmann did nothing wrong.
But using this incident to drag down any and all nuance around the German way of remembering the Holocaust isn't appropriate either.