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by guitarlimeo 93 days ago
Have you questioned whether you might have been better off without seeing ISIS decapitation videos when you were a teenager (you might be too old for that though)? Or maybe that you have something that makes you more immune to this stuff?

I think that I'm biased to think "it shouldn't be a crisis" because I saw that stuff as a kid and turned out ok, it's a prime example of survivor bias, maybe someone who saw that stuff didn't turn out that well. Also one thing I've been wondering I'm not sure if that's the beginning of my everlong cynicism. If it is, then I might have been better off without being exposed to that material that early in my life.

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Nearly everyone I know that saw this stuff turned out just fine

We do not need to turn society into a police state because we're afraid the next generation might not be able to handle what we handled fine for the most part

Edge cases should not dictate the removal of our freedom & rights

These bills are specifically exempting platforms that distributed the ISIS videos (like meta), and including platforms that did not.

apt-get install isis-beheading-vids doesn't work on any Linux distribution I've seen, and it's not like Microsoft or Apple were preloading them on laptops.

These bills have nothing to do with online safety. They exist purely to establish a police state (that will currently be run by a convicted felon with child abusers as deputies -- look at what ICE has been doing to the kids they round up, especially the pregnant ones).

"bills trying to fix it are bad" != "the problem doesn't exist"

if you agree that online safety problem exists then suggest better solution. if you disagree then keep on living in a fantasy world

Pretty sure Vlad the Impaler, Hitler, etc. did worse things to people than anything any of us saw on the internet. So, should we censor history books?
I think you underestimate what people can see on the internet

And history books present this in different context. They don't show a literal video of this execution and talk about it with a different goal in mind. Like if you get a drug in clean room for necessary medical purpose vs inject yourself dirty needles under the bridge because you like it, different things

> Have you questioned whether you might have been better off without seeing ISIS decapitation videos when you were a teenager (you might be too old for that though)?

See, I have, and I think I am actually a better person for it. Videos like these show how humans are really just apes and can easily fall into doing heinous things. It helped harden my view that religion is a net negative for the world, made me a bit more careful, especially in where I choose to travel, and has given me a wider worldview.

No one is rick-rolling with Isis decapitation videos, you go to those sites, and you know what you are getting into. One of the wonders of the early internet was rotten.com, and I am very sad its gone.

How exactly is seeing what human beings are capable of going to harm anyone? It certainly isn't so "damaging" that it needs to be hidden from anyone.

Do you understand how much you are talking only out of your experience? You aren't even considering that people will react differently to seeing that stuff, or that people might not find cynicism in the human nature (or realism as you frame it) valuable, and would much rather want to see the beauty, as naive as that may be.

It might not be harmful on an objectively quantifiable measure, but it will have an effect on people and what that effect is depends on the person.