[ffsm8]

Personally the thing that really surprised me about mine was the amount of condense water builds up under the pads when I'm wearing it over a workday.

My noise cancelling started to go flaky until I stumbled upon that - after I've dried it off after every use and stopped using the "case" /store pads separately from headphone things improved a lot again.

It feels like a serious design issue, I'm really confused why so few people talk about it, but I guess it's because most are just casual users of the headphones with people only wearing it a few minutes a day... And the water only really build up when you're wearing it several hours without taking it off

[mikehall314]

Yeah, the condensation issue was a problem for me too. I ended up having to take them in for repair to Apple several times.

The noise cancellation went flakey, the auto-switching went flakey, they would crash [1] if lifted one cup from the side of my head. Apple ended up replacing them completely, but then the new pair eventually developed all the same faults.

I hope some of these are addressed in the new models, because despite all this I really enjoy them as headphones.

[mikehall314]

[1] Playing audio would stop, the noise cancellation would shut off, they would disconnect from my phone, seemingly reboot, then reconnect again.

[dubbie99]

Ah mine do this. It’s suuuper annoying. I assumed it was because I use them connected to my work Linux workstation.

[distartin]

Yeah, between the weight, no real power‑off, they feel like way too much hassle for something this expensive. Kinda wild that this "refresh" doesn’t really fix any of that