[kstrauser]

> Lol I never knew django orm is faster than SQLAlchemy.

I don’t believe that for a second. Both are wonderful projects, but raw performance was never one of Django ORM’s selling points.

I think its real advantage is making it easy to model new projects and make efficient CRUD calls on those tables. Alchemy’s strong point is “here’s an existing database; let users who grok DB theory query it as efficiently and ergonomically as possible.”

[mr_Fatalyst]

I was surprised too when I saw the results. The benchmarks test standard ORM usage patterns, not the full power of any ORM. SQLAlchemy is more flexible, but that flexibility comes with some overhead. That said, the ORM layer is rarely the bottleneck when working with a database. The benchmarks were more about making sure that all the Pydantic validation I added comes for free, not about winning a speed race.