[calibas]

> I've seen no one working on this, and in fact most people on HN seem to be working on ways to further exacerbate this problem.

It's against the HN guidelines to insinuate that astroturfing happens on HN.

[cwillu]

Discussion of astroturfing on a post that is specifically about astroturfing is such an obvious exception that I'm having a hard time taking your reply in good faith, but this is me trying to do so anyway instead of just downvoting and flagging like the guidelines suggest I do in such cases.

[calibas]

I'm confused, you think I'm saying he's breaking guidelines?

I should have been more clear, but I was trying to skirt the guidelines. I'm sure that astroturfing happens on HN, and I think that not allowing people to talk about it actually helps enable astroturfing.