[luag]

Is in-ear ok? With IEMs, you'll get passive noise canceling that I've found more than enough for most situations.

I have a pair of IEM with the usb-c converter attached most of the time for use with phones.

Give Truthear Hexa a try.

[duskdozer]

For me, it isn't, I need ANC also. This is the thing sticking me with wireless because as far as I can tell, the best ANC are all wireless.

[userbinator]

Try different tips --- IEMs are supposed to seal to your ears like earplugs.

[duskdozer]

I'll put it this way: I also often use earplugs that are rated about as high as they go, and it's still not enough. So adding ANC on top is also helpful for me

[ajolly]

What's the best in-ear ANC you found? I usually stick with over the ear and bose still has the best that I've tried compared to Apple or Sony

[duskdozer]

So far, sony wf1000-xm5, but they're also the most expensive I've tried. (OTOH, not a fan of the bose qc ultra over-ear despite the cost). Earfun airpro 4 were probably second after the sony.