[chris222]

Win8 was a disaster. Hard to understand what Steven is even saying or his point about the Macbook Neo.

The Neo is enabled by the increasing capability of the phone chips and the pre-existing completed move to ARM for MacOS that happened over a 5 year span. Critically the entire app ecosystem quickly embraced the new architecture and there were some nice fallbacks for legacy apps. The sheer scale of the phone chips allows them to be priced to where the Neo becomes doable, especially when using the previous generation of chip.

Windows 8 and Surface RT had no such advantages. Windows was always going to stay primarily an x86 operating system at the time those products hit. There was no obvious chip that had a scale of the iPhone chips. Windows RT was without many apps (chicken/egg problem).

[Teocali]

I disagree about window 8. I quite liked it. I honestly think that it was a better OS than win 10, from an user point of view. But maybe I am biased, as I was using a laptop with a touchscreen at this time.