[billti]

> the product is mediocre at best

I'm not a Tesla fanboy, last year was the first time I bought one (new Model Y), but it is by far the best car I've ever owned, and the FSD blew my mind with how much better it was than I expected.

My wife hates Elon, and has a new hybrid Mitsubishi, but she still drives my Model Y all the time because it's just so much better to drive.

What are you basing the 'mediocre' opinion on?

[ahhhhnoooo]

I owned a Model S. It was a nightmare. Sealed poorly, fraying seams, the dashboard crashed regularly.

I had a service center refuse to schedule a safety recall unless I paid $400 for a new dashboard monitor.

That car is behind me now and I'm so glad. Yes, it could accelerate and that's just about the only trick it has.

[dgxyz]

Same experience here. Had a 2018 P100D. Absolutely the worst car I’ve ever had. Terribly put together. Awful interface. And so utterly fucking distracting it was a liability.

Got rid of it after it stomped the brakes on an empty road and had a battery issue that took weeks to fix.

I don’t own a car now and don’t want one. I’d probably buy a Polestar next time if I had to get one.

[astura]

>What are you basing the 'mediocre' opinion on?

Tesla is well known for having shitty build quality.

https://www.jalopnik.com/teslas-quality-control-is-so-bad-cu...

[1024core]

I concur. We were in the market for a new car. I went to Audi to test drive their A4; and it was OK. The sales guy sat in the passenger seat, yakking away.

Next we went to the Tesla showroom. The sales guy just entered some address and told me to press the gas pedal and it would go by itself. Full FSD. And no sales guy in the car. That just blew me away.

We ended up buying the Model Y.

[markdown]

Probably based on comparisons with modern electric cars, like BYD.