[nananana9]

I may start using LLMs to filter out these kinds of posts.

At this point it's worth considering a permanent, pinned "HN Flamewar: Will LLMs turn you into the next Ken Thompson or are you just a poser who can't write code" thread. We're having this same discussion, constantly, on 5 different threads on the frontpage.

[leoc]

Right, we do seem to have hit diminishing returns on dueling "I have seen the light" and "I haven't fallen for it" blogposts based on personal experience and the author's hunches about where things are going, and we definitely don't need to restart the same discussion from 0 every time another one lands. One thing which would be very interesting at this point is some actual software engineering research measuring the actual, not just user-perceived, impacts.

[nananana9]

We don't do measurable metrics to evaluate our processes, ever. We pick up a trend and go at it for 10 years, until we have a 1,000,000 line monstrosity that's impossible to work on.

Unfortunately people need to experience a 1 million line codebase a dynamic language to figure out that types are actually pretty nice, and they need to write getters and setters for every field for a few years to figure out OOP is stupid, and they need to do 10 HTTP requests for something that could be 10 function calls to figure out microservices are stupid.

In none of these trends did the industry pause to evaluate if what's being written is completely idiotic, it's only with a few decades of hindsight, after a lot of money is lost that we learn the lesson.

[anthk]

Ken would just write awk and rc scripts to define half of the code boilerplate.

[traxler]

I've seen a page offering the latest of AI news from HN and my reaction was basically yours.

I wish I could have a HN frontpage with everything but AI news. Both postive or negative.