[surgical_fire]

> There is no way the US/Israel didn't calculate that:

I don't really believe the buffoons in US leadership calculate much. It's all vibes.

I firmly believe it will become a case study in how many ways a comically incompetent government can damage a country.

As for Israel... I think their calculation is simple. They don't really care about how much damage they cause to the world economy, as long as they get to kill Muslims in general and Iranians in particular. They want death.

[Sabinus]

Israel will aggressively destroy anyone who attacks or intends to attack them. They have peaceful relations with Muslim nations, Jordan and Egypt especially. I acknowledge Israel's current two decade strategy with the Palestinians is not kind, but they aren't cartoon villains that just want to kill Muslims.

[itake]

If its all vibes, then how does trump hungry for a world peace prize vibe with the war? Or the many clips of Trump trashing Obama and Biden for potentially starting a war in Iran?

No, this was a calculated decision.

[orwin]

Trump calling something bad but doing the exact same thing he talked against? No, I can't believe it. What a surprise. This definitely never happened before. At least before December 2025.