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by RivieraKid 4976 days ago
I agree that most of Android phones are crappy. Mostly because of Android customizations, old versions of Android and boring-looking hardware. But Nexus 4 is on par with iPhone 5 (while being 2 times cheaper).
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> But Nexus 4 is on par with iPhone 5 (while being 2 times cheaper).

Assuming you consider no LTE and a plastic body to be "on par".

I meant on par in overall user experience, not that they are equivalent in every feature. iPhone has shitty maps, no NFC, worse CPU/GPU (I think), no expandable notifications, etc.
I don't know how two devices, one of which can connect to a data network 5-10x faster than the other, can be considered "on par in overall user experience".

And as Taligent noted, as always the PowerVR GPU in the iPhone absolutely without question smokes every crappy Mali GPU in every Android phone ever.

Because on average, LTE does not improve UX that much. For example for me, the UX improvement would be zero (I don't have LTE coverage). It also uses more battery. And for me, 3G is fast enough (about 2Mbit/s where I live).

I don't think that 2x faster GPU improves UX a lot for the average user. Accurate maps are more important IMHO.

> I don't think that 2x faster GPU improves UX a lot for the average user.

I think that statement says more about Android fans than it does about "the average users". Who needs a fluid UI and responsiveness that can't be beat? That hardly affects the U-->X<-- which stands for experience let's not forget.

The way iOS works benefits heavily from an overpowered GPU because it was designed with hardware acceleration as a core consideration from the ground up. Android device manufacturers tend to spend that component funding where it counts in Android, bumping up the RAM to reduce slowdowns instead.

> And for me, 3G is fast enough (about 2Mbit/s where I live).

It's true, 640k of memory ought to be enough for anybody.

> Accurate maps are more important IMHO.

Good thing I have accurate maps then. Possibly the most overblown issue in history, the Apple Maps are actually fine. Weaker in most areas but stronger than I expected at launch, and good enough that I don't miss Google Maps.

If you think they're "inaccurate" then you're doing more tech-news reading than actual investigating. They're plenty accurate. Considering you have the world to work with, obviously this doesn't apply everywhere. However, neither does the conventional wisdom that Google maps is better. In certain areas that Google has neglected, Apple maps is already better right out of the gate.

According to the reviews, N4's interface is completely smooth, stutter-free. That's why 2x faster GPU wouldn't improve the UX much.

Ok, LTE improves UX, but it's not that big deal as you make it sound.

Apple Maps may be ok where you live, but overall the consensus is (even among Apple fanboys and Apple CEO) that Google Maps are better.

iPhone has much, much better CPU/GPU than Nexus 4. Nearly twice as fast in most cases.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-an...

It's about twice better in OpenGL tests but I would be very surprised if it had faster CPU. N4 has quad-core CPU with higher frequency.
It's pretty clearly from reviews so far that Nexus 4 is just another mid range Android phone.

No LTE, poor build quality, slow CPU/GPU, average camera.

What reviews are you reading? Every review I've read has been praising the build quality, the CPU/GPU performance and the camera.
Engadget and Anandtech.

Engadget complained that the glass back easily cracked and that the camera was average. And we know from Anandtech benchmarks that the CPU/GPU is about half that of the iPhone 5.

So you'll agree that the iPhone 4 & 4S are also poorly built? Lots of people cracked the back screen on those phones.

Nice cherry-picking on the benchmarks. So the second fastest phone in the world is "slow". Gotcha.

>Engadget complained that the glass back easily cracked and that the camera was average

Did they actually crack one or were they inferior based on the iPhone and ignoring all of the work they did to make it more damage resistant?

Mid-range phone? Quite the opposite. At least according to most of the reviews. E.g. Gizmodo:

"As of right now, it is officially my favorite phone by a healthy margin. It’s just so fast, so smooth, and the software is great."

NFC, 2 times bigger RAM, gerat build quality, quad-core processor.

Even if you think that iP5 is superior, you have to admit that N4's value / price is way higher.