[aestetix]

> The Post is not naming the former DOGE member or company because it has not independently confirmed the accusations in the complaint.

Why not? Shouldn't the public be allowed to learn who all the DOGE employees were? Federal employees are public record, are they not?

[NicuCalcea]

They're not naming them because they haven't been able to confirm the wrongdoing, not because they can't publish the names of DOGE employees.

[paul7986]

DOGE was headhunting me late July through end of December.

Their recruiters are all anonymous when they reach out as they do not provide their names. I constantly questioned to myself and them directly if they were legit even if their email address showed as [e-mail] (their public email address seen on USDS). The first recruiter I demanded a video call with and asked him to bob and weave his head (lol). He never gave me his last name (all his emails came from that public address and they signed their emails with first name only) but I found him on Linkedin. He was late 20s to late 30s. From there I was asked to do/turned in a case study and after the govt shutdown I was invited to interview with a DOGE employee whom then her email showed her full name. I didnt make it past her as there was another step in their process which is an in person interview at USDS's office or within another govt agency DOGE working at.

[WarmWash]

The public is...unintelligent, and generally incapable of differentiating between an accusation and a conviction.

[ZeroGravitas]

Something DOGE relied on when publicizing all those 300 year old people claiming benefits.

Who turned out not to exist.

Or when they put loshed that website full of their savings.

Which turned out not to exist.

[tastyface]

Every DOGE member is complicit, and every single name should be published. They knew what they were getting into.

[jsbisviewtiful]

Not like the current admin and AI companies are helping with that at all. Also, anyone in that department has brought great harm to the entire country and their employment should be public knowledge.

[aestetix]

There are two stories here. One is the alleged wrongdoing. The second is the fact that the Washington Post has a name of a former DOGE employee. I'm far more interested in the second story than the first.

[WarmWash]

Asking for a list of all DOGE employees is different than asking for the name of the single accused employee. It wouldn't make any sense for the media to publish a list of every DOGE employee in the context of this story.

[ajross]

Right, because indiscriminately hoovering data about people and their activities and affiliations for the benefit of someone else is clearly immoral.

Oh, wait.

[mistrial9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_of_the_Department_of_G...

[aestetix]

Oh wow! I hadn't seen that. That's really great! All of them should be listed there, and should have been public all along.

[Amezarak]

Where can I see a list of all other government employees?

[kbos87]

It’s an allegation, and the names of alleged perpetrators of crimes are rarely protected like this. Certainly feels like special treatment.

[starkparker]

If the Post named you as someone who did something, and you didn't do that thing, and that thing harmed you in some way, you would sue them. That would cost the Post money, and they obviously don't want to spend money on anything that their staff does.

[estimator7292]

Because in a civilized society, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty and the accused are given some level of privacy until that happens.

[sylos]

We no longer live in a civilized society

[lazyasciiart]

But we are in the USA, where the majority of convicted criminals were never proven guilty because the system relies on coercing them into not going to trial.

[joquarky]

Civilized societies don't shut down the paths for people to air their grievances.

[pstuart]

"civilized" implies that everybody is playing by the rules. Those clowns were not playing by the rules.

[withinboredom]

Say who? Literally the entire news media loves airing trials before they're proven innocent or guilty.

[Ferret7446]

Which is one reason why the legacy news media is disregarded/disrespected by the general public. People have caught into the games that they play such as trying to paint people as pre convicted

[ramon156]

Depends who it benefits

[batch12]

Someone should tell that to the people who publish the gas station mugshot magazines.

[ipython]

Typically you prevent publishing the names of minors accused of a crime /s

That said there is a list by propublica: https://projects.propublica.org/elon-musk-doge-tracker/

[charcircuit]

Such information would purely be used for harassment.

[ipython]

This admin has no problems doxxing people for harassment, listing their personal home address on official social media posts: https://x.com/dhsgov/status/1912567112733753563?s=46. So why the double standard?

[charcircuit]

The court filing provides more information than just giving ammo to harassers so I do not see them as directly equivalent. I also do not agree with the premise that if one person does something bad it would justify someone else in doing so.

[ipython]

The publicly available filing does not include the home address of the individual. See https://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/inquiryByCa... and search for case 0502SP019272021.

Plus - you’re telling me that highlighting an individual and posting their home address on an official government account is not “giving ammo to harassers”?

[charcircuit]

Not "just".

[ipython]

What other purpose did that unredacted post serve?

[lovich]

How does it feel to experience cognitive dissonance this hard?