[cma256]

Both California and New York have shrinking populations according to Wikipedia. And even if the estimates are wrong and they do have growing populations you still need to consider the fact that the Southern states are growing much faster.

Federal power is shifting south. If you like the politics of New York and California that's a long-term problem that needs to be resolved.

[ambicapter]

California has a "Neutral Decrease" in population and New York has a "Neutral Increase" according to Wikipedia. I'm gonna go with the 5 year trendline, which is up.

> And even if the estimates are wrong

Nice, covering all your bases.

> Southern states are growing much faster

Yeah, smaller states grow faster than larger ones.

[cma256]

I'm talking specifically about this phenomena[1]. I wasn't agreeing with the GP that these policies are "oppressive". I'm only informing you that these states are not experiencing "explosive growth" and the downstream effects of that fact.

1. https://thearp.org/blog/apportionment/2030-apportionment-for...

[pc86]

You'll have a much better time here if you take others' arguments with the assumption that they're made in good faith.

[verdverm]

CA and NY are both expected to lose 4 seats next census, based on current trends. Saw this in an HN submissions yesterday about gerrymandering and how it might be a losing strategy for Dems looking out into the 2030s.