[matheusmoreira]

Automated traffic law enforcement is surveillance. The fact it's limited in scope and functionality doesn't matter. It's still surveillance.

All surveillance increases safety. The cost is freedom.

Do you trust humans with the ability to judge the situation and the freedom to decide to run a red light if they think it's safe? Or do you surveil every intersection and punish all infractions regardless of conditions or the existence of actual victims?

For people like me, it's a matter of basic human dignity. I want to be a human with the capacity for judgement and the power to act on it. I want to decide for myself. I want to live in a society that recognizes this. I won't sacrifice this dignity in the name of safety.

[DiogenesKynikos]

> Do you trust humans with the ability to judge the situation and the freedom to decide to run a red light if they think it's safe?

Absolutely not.

> For people like me, it's a matter of basic human dignity. I want to be a human with the capacity for judgement and the power to act on it.

Your human dignity does not require you to be able to run red lights when you think it's okay.

This is libertarian ideology taken to the extreme.