[abraxas]

Which in turn were only invented because millennials would not be caught dead writing Java and JSP. We had all this shit figured out by the late nineties and 90% of what is accomplished on the web today was entirely possible and well integrated in Java app servers.

This whole business is a fashion industry.

I'm for one grateful for LLMs because for the first time in around 30 years there is actually genuine novelty to explore in software engineering. Ruby and nodejs weren't it.

[sgarman]

Mongodb is webscale.

[steve_adams_86]

Do you think it can handle 10 requests per hour? How many mongo instances will that require, and should I use micro services?

[pjmlp]

Indeed, as someone confortably on Java/.NET ecosystem, I only put up with stuff like Next.js, because it has become a required skill in the headless SaaS products space.

Thanks to Vercel partnerships, many of those SaaS vendors only support Next.js as extension/integration technology on their SDKs.

[mattmanser]

It really wasn't.

MVC really changed web dev for the better, and Django/Rails trail-blazed it. It's one of the few paradigms I've seen in my career that was an unequivocal win for us.

[pjmlp]

We were already doing MVC in products like the one sold by Altitude Software in Portugal, in a Tcl based platform that was inspired on Vignette and AOLServer.

The authors of said product eventually went on to create OutSystems, one of the very few RAD products to do Delphi/VB like application servers with graphical tooling.

It was no need for Django/Rails trail-blaze anything other than not everyone has Silicon Valey visibilty to push their ideas.