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by pmarreck 105 days ago
This is where most reasonable people would say “OK, fine”

CLEARLY, a lot of developers are not reasonable

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It is entirely reasonable for a project to require you to attest that the thing you are contributing is your own work.

The unreasonable ones are the ones with the oppositional-defiant “You can’t tell me I can’t use an LLM!” reaction.

It IS their own work.

The simplest refutation of your point of view is, who or what is responsible if the work submission is wrong?

It will always be the person’s, never the computer’s. Conveniently, AI always acts as if it has no skin in the game… because it literally and figuratively doesn’t… so for people to treat it like it does, should be penalized

If it’s the output of an LLM, it’s not their own work.
Who prompted the LLM?

Who vetted the output?

Who ensured there was adequate test coverage?

Who insisted on a certain design?

Who is to blame if it's bad code? That is the same entity that is responsible, and the same entity that "did it"

tl;dr your stance is full of poop, my dude

“I looked up the topic on Wikipedia and I highlighted the text and I selected copy and I selected paste so I don’t see how this is plagiarism.”

That’s what you sound like.

You sound like someone who has literally zero understanding as to why that is a ridiculous comparison.

There are a thousand and one ways that I participate when building something with LLM assistance. Everything from ORIGINATING AN IDEA TO BEGIN WITH, to working on a thorough spec for it, to ensuring tests are actually valid, to asking for specific designs like hexagonal design, to specific things like benchmarks... literally ALL OF THE INITIATIVE IS MINE, AND ALL OF THE SUCCESS/FAILURE CONSEQUENCES ARE MINE, AND THAT IS ULTIMATELY ALL THAT MATTERS

Please head towards a different career if you now have a stupid and contrived excuse not to continue working with the machines, because you sound like a whining child

And you're not answering the question, because you know it would end your point: WHO OR WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE IF THE CODE SUCCEEDS OR FAILS?

and your stance is not your own if you got the LLM to stand for you. ;-P

human prompting != human production