[lokimedes]

As a Mac user, ironically, it seems like the Mac design team only uses iPhones or worse, not Macs themselves. I think we are at a stage where the “design rules the world” dominate rather than the full product experience. And there seems to be zero vision left in these products as well.

[AnonC]

> As a Mac user, ironically, it seems like the Mac design team only uses iPhones or worse, not Macs themselves.

It seems certain that they use iPhones for everything. They can’t even subject themselves to using an iPad. They just copy things from iOS straight into iPadOS and macOS and let others (end users) deal with the fallout. Craig Federighi doesn’t seem to pay any attention to software anymore.

[joe_mamba]

Same how sex sells for humans, design and looks sell the same way for objects, from phones, to PCs, cars, washing machines, etc.

Consumers don't understand tech specs, so if you show them something that triggers their lizard brains because it genuinely looks really good, appealing, futuristic, trustworthy, etc, then they'll buy it for that.

The issue is that most designers are snake oil salesmen, so from the perspective of management and C-suite who approves designs, you can't objectively verify the claims and buzzwords of the design team. See the pepsi logo redesign fuckup.

[tim333]

I'm sure they use macs but those are only about 8% of Apple sales vs 50+ for iPhone and 22% for services. So I guess they stuff that makes money gets prioritized.

[lokimedes]

If only it didn’t - I’d much prefer the UI of a few versions back.