[bluefirebrand]

Most artists I have spoken to don't believe it's possible to do this AI stuff ethically

Maybe they're wrong but I tend to agree. Or even if it is possible to do it ethically, it still never will be done that way because there's just too much money in behaving unethically

[JAlexoid]

The only problem that people see in these models is the money flows.

If it all was non-profit - then no one would raise the ethical issue.

[bluefirebrand]

I don't know

I still think cutting artists livelihood from under them with tooling built on top of their work is unethical no matter how you cut it

[Timwi]

In a world where artists’ livelihood depends on their output, yeah. But that's not a force of nature. Our society is making the choice of letting them starve for not producing enough art. We need to decouple this. UBI now.