[devsda]

Off topic.

Did anybody read the linked fortune article about Uber ceo expecting people to work on weekends.

It has that paid PR post and satirical piece vibes at the same time. With words like "unparalleled work ethic" working on weekends, wisdom and the part about checking emails right after waking up at 5 in the morning, I was expecting it to wrap up with a hint of obvious sarcasm but sadly it never came.

[kleiba]

To be honest, if they paid me a 6 digit salary, I'd be happy to "answer an email" on a Saturday, it isn't exactly doing an 8+ hour shift at the weekend.

[triceratops]

You're selling yourself too cheaply. To habitually work on weekends I'd need at least a 7 figure salary. Maybe even 8 figures.

[tavavex]

Sometimes to me it feels like HN posts come from a different universe to mine. $10 million to answer emails on weekends seems insane. I would gladly do it for 2x the minimum wage where I live. The situation on the market is really, really desperate, especially on the lower end.

[triceratops]

It isn't literally "answer 1 email on a Saturday occasionally" though. I've done that for a lot less. The expectation is to work 7 days/week and/or be available to work anytime.

I appreciate that this is the reality for many jobs with lower pay - especially retail and fast food. Software and software-adjacent jobs are not like that though. Professionals in this field have, for the past quarter century, had better opportunities. I understand it's a unique job market right now and people do what they must.

[tavavex]

I am in software. It's just that the bargaining power of juniors and new grads has fallen through the floor, but companies are still not willing to hire any of us. I would even work the full 7 work day/week schedule (despite all its negative effects) for CA$100k - which was once considered to be just an okay rate for a mid-level dev. I bet that many people I know would also take that offer.

[lovich]

Your willingness to work 7 days a week might just have a correlation with companies not hiring as many people

[kleiba]

But is this about "habitually work on weekends" or "occasionally attend to an urgent email on a Saturday"? To me, it's not exactly clear from the linked article, but it would be a big difference.

That said, we moved to Europe some years ago, so I have never really seen even a 6-digit salary in my life, even though I'm formally and practically qualified and have decades of experience. So there's that.

[_fw]

It’s not that a single email isn’t worth the bargain (it is). It’s that this is symptomatic of an unhealthy, performative culture.

This kind of behaviour incentivises a kind of pick-me, I’m suffering the most for the shareholders type of behaviour.

How many Saturday emails really make a difference? The whole thing is a ruse.

And the fact this shithead is spouting his nonsense on Steven Bartlett’s asinine podcast surprises me not.

[Tactical45]

More like 7-8 digit salary, in the case of the CEO's direct reports at Uber

[polotics]

This isn't off topic in as much as clearly it reveals how disconnected from reality that CEO is:

"Khosrowshahi says: Just work hard, and success will follow. "

...is hilarious for a company like Uber, where the whole point of the business model is to optimize away drivers income so much that they will always be on the edge of something very much else than success, no matter how hard they work!

[wojciii]

Uber is a failure here in this part of Scandinavia. They were made redundant by our lowmakers and try to run some kind of cab business in accordance with our laws.

[OutOfHere]

What ridesharing services thrive there? None as far as I know. The taxis in Scandinavia are in my experience a total scam with drivers charging absurdly high rates and taking the long route on top of it. The riders are worse off in every way.

[wojciii]

Taxis are not a scam. They are expensive because they have to pay people to drive for a living.

You should ask to drive a specific route and know the area. This is the same in all countries.

[OutOfHere]

Please. I shouldn't have to ask the taxi driver to use the fastest route. They are supposed to do that on their own. Instead, they intentionally use a slower route, and sometimes even intentionally miss turns. All this is true in Europe. Moreover, at least in the US, sometimes their behavior can be downright rude, hateful, and hostile.

You seem altogether blind to what you're missing. Uber/Lyft rates are substantially lower than of taxis, and they never intentionally take a long route, as the rate is almost always pre-decided. Their drivers too earn for a living.

Whenever competition is artificially suppressed, you're getting scammed as a default.

[wojciii]

You seem to be missing the point that countries have laws that prohibit companies like Uber as they won't pay workers a proper wage comparable with other industries.

I don't want Uber here or any of the gig economy parasites.