[sazz]

That's right, Germany sells electricity to other countries during the day and buys electricity in the evening because there is no sun then.

The problem is that other countries also have solar and wind power during the day and don't need this electricity at all. That's why Germany has to “sell” this surplus electricity, even though no one needs it. To ensure that the electricity is still "purchased", Germany has to pay money for it. In the evening, Germany has to pay money to buy back the missing electricity.

Paying money to have something purchased is generally referred to as garbage fees.

[patall]

That does not seem to be a long term problem. Wind and solar can be down regulated with ease (and within fractions of a second), a negative prices only happen because producers got a flat-fee per kWh which is pretty much phase-out now. The problem is rather that Germany (plus Luxembourg) is still a single price zone, i.e when wind is blowing in Hamburg, the per-kWh price in Passau is also nill. While this is nice for Bavaria (the main culprit, as usual), there is an enormous cost for this in the form of re-dispatch fees as long as the grid is not strengthened a lot.

[FrojoS]

The main culprit as usual? They have been financing the whole gaga show for years.

[OKRainbowKid]

What gaga show? Bavarian industry is being subsidized via cheap electricity from the north, who in turn is paying higher prices than they would otherwise.

[FrojoS]

Bavaria has been subsidizing the north for decades and yet you think you can betitle us? This is not just about electricity. We are talking about billions of EUR in transfers. The money is flowing one direction only. So called “solidarity” is a hard ask given this arrogance.

[rob74]

The money is flowing in one direction only now, but what the "Stammtisch" likes to forget is that Bavaria has benefited from transfers until as recently as 1992, and from 1950 to 1986 (36 years!) the money also flowed in only one direction - but the opposite one, from other states to Bavaria. (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4nderfinanzausgleich#Fin...)

[OKRainbowKid]

You are accusing me of belittling "you", after you wrote "gaga show".

That's ironic. And no, money is not flowing in one direction only. As I already wrote, Bavarian industry is effectively massively subsidized by the north investing massively in renewable energy production and overpaying for their own energy because demand is driven by the south (who is fighting tooth and nails against building their own wind turbines for ideological reasons).

Greetings from Hessen (another Geberland, just like Bavarian, but without the Bavarian exceptionalism, which most of Germany just sees as arrogance)!

[bucephalos]

Dont listen to Söder, he ate too many sausages which makes him spout nonsense constantly.

[FrojoS]

Söder merely repeated what Bavarians have been thinking and saying since when he still hadn't left Franken.

I realise my post was unnecessary inflammatory and I'm sorry for that. Enough Internet for today.