[trylfthsk]

Not entirely convinced that outside the torment nexuses used in industrial meat farming, natural suffering is any lesser sans humanity.

[aziaziazi]

Estimated scale of the torment nexuses: https://considerveganism.com/counter/

[stouset]

The fish counter is horrifying, I had no idea.

[aziaziazi]

The fish counter comes from here https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal-welfare/artic...

One could argue there's a double count: about one-fifth of fish are caught to feed other animals (mainly fish, but also terrestrial animals). But I don't think one kill offsets another.

> around half of wild-caught finfish numbers are destined for reduction to fishmeal and oil, of which, respectively, 70 and 73% are used for aquaculture feeds