[fabian2k]

Trump was mostly a known quantity when elected a second time. And on foreign policy it was clear that he would be at least erratic and unpredictable. This is not an unexpected result of voting for Trump.

People voted for a vindictive and petty criminal that doesn't care about rules or laws. This is the result of that.

[JKCalhoun]

I, agree. It's impossible for me to afford any cover for someone who says they thought they were voting for a guy who would not start any wars.

I can't think of a time in my life when the choice was any more clear.