[diabllicseagull]

> The impotence of naive idealism in the face of economic incentives.

I don't think it was so much the naivety of idealism, but more an adoption of idealism and related language to help market what was actually being built: a profit-first organization that's taking its true form little by little.

[samrus]

I genuinely dont think it was profit first thenm i think it was all in good faith. Altman definitely got greedy and stabbed all that in the back

[runarberg]

This is an extraordinary claim and it requires extraordinary evidence. There is nothing in Altman’s behavior current or past to suggest this was anything other then a money making grift. The easiest explanation for his betrayal is that he was simply lying.

[conradkay]

I'm not fan of Altman but the financial angle doesn't make much sense when he doesn't have equity in OpenAI

There's some indirect exposure and potential of being granted significant equity, but his actions don't read as being for his own wealth

As an example, he walks away with nothing in the very plausible timeline where he was fired but not then reinstated