[iLoveOncall]

Yes but it was the same in the two Tier 1.5-2 cities I also went to.

Obviously it's not the whole country, but it's setting a trend still, especially when it's always the richest who pollute the most per capita.

[DeepSeaTortoise]

Interesting, never heard anyone calling some place a Tier 1.5 city. Is this a recent development as "almost official" as the Tiers itself, something obvious I just never picked up on or people taking pride in their Tier 2s doing really well?

Also why does the Tier list keep expanding downwards? Wasn't being called a Tier 4 basically exclusively an insult? Sub culture not being satisfied with just embracing rotting anymore, but now racing for the bottom of the sea?

[iLoveOncall]

I don't know to be fair, just repeating what my Chinese wife called those cities. Not tier-1, but bigger than other tier-2.