[matsemann]

You know you could just choose a framework and stick with it? The way you look down on "the whole profession" for what's basically a straw man and your own decision is a bit bizarre. Especially coupled with the fact that tech has never moved so fast as right now, being on top of the AI-game is a target changing a hundred times faster than frontend frameworks back in the days.

[fragmede]

You could, but then you'd still be stuck doing PHP templates with embedded hand written JavaScript and that madness, or maybe Django or RoR. Or cgi-bin and Perl. Technology evolves as an industry and the only guarantee is that you have to keep learning new things to stay relevant in this industry.

[Cpoll]

You don't always have the option. AngularJS, for example, EOLed in 2021.

[NewsaHackO]

It is a huge stretch to call transitioning from angularjs to angular learning a new framework.

[taejavu]

At the time that’s precisely how it felt though. So much so that I personally felt it wasn’t worth it relearning everything. Had shipped several projects with AngularJS at my very first dev job, and have never written a line of Angular v2+

[kzzzznot]

It confuses me when people talk about frameworks as being totally different. They solve the same problems, slightly differently. It’s not a big lift to learn a new one if you are familiar with one or two already.

[taejavu]

That might be generally true for frontend frameworks these days, because they’ve all converged around the same ideas. But in the mid 2010s, Backbone was very different from jQuery, which was very different from Knockout, Ember, ReactJS etc. certain frameworks embraced certain programming paradigms, others embraced others.

Some of my colleagues didn’t make the jump. Those that were the most into AngularJS back then are still writing Angular apps today.

[alsetmusic]

> You know you could just choose a framework and stick with it? The way you look down on "the whole profession" for what's basically a straw man and your own decision is a bit bizarre.

I'm only in my forties. I've been nostalgic for the days when I'd stay up all night exploring new frontiers (for me) in tech for a number of years. I could not disagree more with your take on this.

Someone said they value their time before death and you're pretty dismissive. Priorities change. Values change. Conditions change.

> Especially coupled with the fact that tech has never moved so fast as right now, being on top of the AI-game is a target changing a hundred times faster than frontend frameworks back in the days.

I mean, isn't that what people in this thread have been saying about frameworks? How many hours have been lost relearning how to solve a problem that has already been solved? It's like when I tried to fix a date-time issue on Windows as a Mac / Linux user. I knew NTP was the answer but I had to search the web to find out where to turn it on. Stuff like that is pretty frustrating and I didn't even have to do it every five to ten years.

[raw_anon_1111]

Yes if I actually did web development I’m sure I could still be using JQuery.