[WD-42]

Here’s an example: https://imgur.com/a/konsole-vs-ghostty-tR4Otmy

Konsole on left, ghostty (which is gtk) on right. The latter has at least 3 additional lines visible outputting the same command. The giant copy paste buttons, tab bar which wastes a ton of space, are typical of kde apps. The klutter isn’t just visually annoying it makes the apps less useful.

[Pxtl]

Honestly this is the only complaint I agree with. KDE plasma desktop and its configurability looks and feels great... but all their in house actual windowed applications like Konsole and Kate are mediocre at best. All that duplicated effort seems wasteful.

[array_key_first]

It's honestly just Konsole. Kate is very good, you can legitimately use it as a vscode replacement if you want. Dolphin is also the best file manager and it's not even close.

And then kmail... kmail is bad.

[Pxtl]

I don't want Kate to be vscode, I want it to be notepad.exe. I want it to open a document instantly and let me edit and save and close with no distractions or delays.

I have vscode for vscode.

[GreenWatermelon]

For just notepad you have kwrite.

[array_key_first]

I think Kate does that, it just also has a bunch of other functionality.

[WD-42]

I wonder how much QT has to do with this. AFAIK the only _decent_ bindings are still C++ and Python. For KDE it might just be C++?

There's plenty of valid criticism of GTK but choosing C over C++ isn't one of them. It seems like there is a new Rust GTK app every week, and other languages as well, thanks to the availability of bindings.

I'm curious how long relying on C++ contributions is going to last.