[alexk307]

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/summer-temperature-anomal...

Somewhere on the order of 1-2C if you start from the 1850s.

[_aavaa_]

I'm not talking about global, look at individual countries:

- Andora (5C/9F)

- Montenegro (5C/9F)

- Japan (4C/7F)

- Italy (4C/7F)

- Spain (3C/5.4F)

Even with current rates I think we'll easily hit a 20F increase in several regions.

[alexk307]

Pretty sure global warming is referencing the global affects, not regional ones. You can't make a global argument based on local temperature increases just like you can't make an argument that global warming is causing cooler summers based on the numerous regions that have experienced cooling in the same reference period. Also these are average temperatures increases, not summer high temperature increases.

[wewtyflakes]

Globally, the weather of regions is changing.

[wewtyflakes]

Your own source affirms the other person's point, not yours; switch to the table view and sort by absolute change.

[alexk307]

It really doesn't - my source shows average summer temperatures (Th - Tl / 2). This does not say that those regions are experiencing high temperatures that are that much warmer, but that on average (including overnight lows) they are warmer.

[wewtyflakes]

How does this disprove the other person's point? Is there a hair being split in a way that is material to the spirit of the argument?