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by Imustaskforhelp 110 days ago
This is quite concerning. Your comment made me somehow wonder if the people of Israel seem to support this war and it turns out that the answer is sort of yes[0]

I remember Witold pilecki during these times although polish, he was the first person to report the allies about the atrocities happening within the holocaust which the allies thought were not even possible, they thought he was exaggerating, that there was no way that this level of atrocity can take place.

Only to see the nation torn up by that atrocity to be in the next few generations be the one supporting a war which has no end in sight, a war which is killing school children, civilians and so many more.

I just pray that the world can get better because I am worried for the jewish population because I am seeing hatred towards the group themselves online. Some of which don't want to do anything with the war and live normal lives, I just hope that they can use their voice to stand for what's right in terms of humanitarianism.

It's gonna be a cycle of hatred which breeds more hatred which is only gonna lead to pain. I hope that people of israel realize the option of peace too and protest against their govt. and I am hearing protests from the US side but not so much from the Israeli side. A world run on wars has no winners. People are also questioning how much US had a say in the war after Marco Rubio's statement and these wars are sadly gonna lead to more anti-semitism in the future affecting the normal jewish population the most.

I genuinely hope that in the future that, Israeli people can try to reflect on the whole situation and try to create an internal pressure to stop war.

Humanity can actually try to uplift itself but it seems that we are flailing downwards.

[0]: https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-jewish-israelis-supp...

2 comments

I'm Iranian (albeit Christian) and unfortunately.. Iranians _also_ support this war (specifically the Shia sect supporting the regime). As a matter of fact, they have been _praying_ for this.

Shia Muslims have a strong martyrdom culture in comparison to Sunnis. This is why assassination of Khamenei didn't do anything in terms of disruption. He was martyred during the holy month of Ramadan and they welcomed it. All US did was created another honorable martyr for them.

I know it's difficult for Westerners to grasp how someone could pray for their own death but this is what they do. Decapitating their leadership doesn't do much because the next guy just takes over.

30% of the population in IRAN is composed of these fanatics and they will gladly give up their lives for IRGC. In a country of 90M, that amounts to a lot of people. IRAN has very difficult terrain and IRGC has been preparing for this war for the past 30 years. They don't care about the lives of Iranians, US can bomb Tehran to hell and they will not care. They have nothing to lose and will gladly sacrifice innocent people.

The Shia's motto is: "Every day is Ashura, every land is Karbala" [0], [1]

I think this is going to be a difficult conflict for everyone.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashura [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbala

> I'm Iranian (albeit Christian) and unfortunately.. Iranians _also_ support this war (specifically the Shia sect supporting the regime). As a matter of fact, they have been _praying_ for this.

I actually agree with you. This is the reason why I am saying that Israel/US shouldn't have given it to the Iranian regime as well.

Because as we both know that Iranian regime and the Iranian people are different will and it seems that this war is gonna impact the Iranian people the people I am worried about from my original comment and it was my attempt to suggest de-escalation of war feels the better route.

> I think this is going to be a difficult conflict for everyone. & > US can bomb Tehran to hell and they will not care. They have nothing to lose and will gladly sacrifice innocent people.

I agree with this too and this is why I am saying that innocent people will lose their lives in this conflict and I am sure that you must've heard of the horrible incidents happening too.

I had a friend who was Iranian and they were Muslim (I never asked their sect) and they were against the regime as well, quite a lot actually.

I am curious to know what your thoughts are on the peace of the situation. I suppose you want peace as well for the people, right?

My point was that the jewish faith within israel/israeli people themselves in general could better rally for peace given that they had a very messy past as well with regards to atrocities which is something that we aren't seeing, with regards to either the palestine or now Iran where in both cases, the innocent normal everyday people lives are getting killed.

I just want peace. That's all.

> I know it's difficult for Westerners to grasp how someone could pray for their own death but this is what they do.

I think some Americans have familiarity with the concept. There’s a somewhat popular myth within Evangelical Christianity that reasons that the US itself needs to be destroyed before the Rapture can occur, because there is no mention of the US in any prophecy. (I’ve heard Micah 4 cited as one possible reference but it’s a flimsy one, even by apocalypse prophecy standards.)

Here is one variant of this myth in the context of the current conflict: https://baptistnews.com/article/the-end-times-theology-drivi...

Yeah, Shi'a are weird, on one hand it bear the most secular, laical Muslim society during all the middle age until the 20th century, on the other hand it regularly spawn death cults, with the IRGC being it's latest (and arguably strongest) iteration.
I may be wrong but I think that, any theocractic country to retain its power, is very likely to treat any minor differences as something huge to maintain its relevancy.

Even treating the citizens of its own who are unhappy with the govt. can be treated as betrayal or propagandized by the theocracy to retain its power and curb dissentment of which IRGC is part of.

I feel like its worth mentioning that Iran had actual democracy with Mohammad Mosaddegh but the CIA got involved for (oil purposes) and overthrew the democracy to get the Shah and Shah although liberal in say how girls wore, was still a very brutal dictator

It was the students themselves and religious figures and everyday citizens that got united to fight against the shah and they had thought that things would get better but they hadn't decided as to what next and so the religious power seized Iran affecting the very students that helped them get into power.

So I do think that the idea about foreign govt. overthrowing your govt. made the extremist sectors of shia gaining power after the 20'th century.

The story of average iranian is sad because they never got to witness democracy in its full form because as soon as it did, America/British tried to overthrow the democracy in worries about soviet connection/socialism and the religious leaders took that moment and gained power and brutally oppressed their own regime. Both sides are extremely messed up and all of this just mess/conflict could've been prevented which has made 90 million people live in tyranny under the Islamic regime and now also in danger of war :(

This is an incredibly ignorant comment. Iran isn’t Palestine and it’s a category error to project your feelings about Palestine into Iran. Iran’s attacks on Israel aren’t like Palestinians attacking a country that is occupying their territory. Iran is a sophisticated country that uses military action to further its own geopolitical interests. Iran has been attacking Israel—launching missiles and funding terrorists like Hezbollah—for decades.

Moreover, out of all the countries that attack Israel, Iran has the least reason to do so. Iran is a thousand miles away from Israel and has no security concerns from Israel’s existence. In fact, the two countries had peaceful relations for decades before the Islamic theocracy took over in 1979. Iran was the second Muslim majority country to recognize Israel’s sovereignty and the two countries had peaceful relations for decades.

Iran is getting attacked by Israel because it has chosen for decades to launch offensive attacks against Israel for no reason.

Obviously I hate the Iranian Regime as well, maybe even more than what you might imagine because I had a friend in Tehran,Iran whom I met who hated the regime and everything that came with it.

I had helped them prevent censorship from their own regime from using psiphonvpn which is insecure and helped them install protonVPN and helped them be more safe as they were using malware version of minecraft (tlauncher) and helped them use open source alternative instead so that they can enjoy a game in the world of inflation and repression and played the game with them and we have talked so much about Iranian regime.

There were scheduled blackouts and a lack of Battery storage due to prices so when blackout happened, everything turned off in most households of Tehran, the capital city of Iran.

The regime had done so many atrocities to its own people too.

But what I am trying to just say is that in this war against Iran though, The very same people I told you about who hated the regime are getting killed too.

My point is that atrocities are being done perhaps as we speak as US/Israeli forces strike tehran. Innocent people are losing lives and the same people who used to protest against the regime are getting killed as well and even school children aren't safe[0]

My comment had hoped that I could urge that this war on Iran is killing civilians and doing atrocities and there is no end to this war as far as I can tell.

This war, as much as I hate the Iranian Regime, I can't help but feel like was an escalation which is going to cause so many deaths of innocent lives. The deaths of these innocents lives is an atrocity.

Of course, me and you can go sit in our houses at safety and sleep at night and argue on forums on how wrong one another is, but I think about that friend that I can't contact because of blackouts, whom I was worried about from their own govt. when the protests had happened that I was worried about their lives, and right now, I am worried about their lives too.

And regarding Marco Rubio's statement which I am paraphasing that but Israel would've attacked Iran and so its better if we best attack with them feels so fickle response from US in the sense that US is a superpower which couldn't stop Israel from such escalation, rather dugging itself into blood of innocents like so many times in the pasts within the same region that I need not remind you of.

If you are telling me that US the superpower, couldn't stop Israel in starting a war so it joined it, then I am fine to hear that too but I don't believe it. I do believe that US could've definitely stopped it. This war could've been prevented just like the last wars.

I am now worried about the safety of my friend who lives in tehran in the same way that I was worried about the people of ukraine for. I am worried about the deaths of innocents, sir.

I am worried that the world has failed those people who lose their innocent lives in such conflicts and are currently in danger. The war is happening. More innocent people will lose their lives.

I don't support any sides of the war. I support peace.

> This is an incredibly ignorant comment

I am sorry if you feel that way. I had thought that my discussions with my friend of tehran and even Israeli friends could've made me less ignorant. I can be wrong, I usually am. I am unable in good conscience agree to this war

If you are interested in knowing how I feel, I think Spanish PM has been vocal about it too and that's exactly how I feel even though I am not Spanish.

'No to War.' That's all.

I am sorry if you still feel like I am ignorant though. I am just sharing how I feel/make up of the whole situation.

I just feel like this war is only going to get downward spiral in terms of the innocent lives it takes, in terms of the financial damage it costs, in terms of the diplomatic rifts in the whole region not just iran/israel or some few as the war gets more messy.

[0]: Analysis suggests US was responsible for deadly strike on Iranian elementary school :https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/06/middleeast/iran-minab-ele...