[blueblisters]

It might be that this admin does not have the capacity to reason about second or third order effects.

But given that what would typically be red lines for previous administrations have been brazenly crossed without consequences, why would they bother?

[andrewstuart2]

Crossing red lines for previous administrations is clearly a goal at this point.

[theshrike79]

Nope, they don't have that capacity. It's been shown multiple times in the past year.

Shutting down USAID being the clearest one. They just saw "they help brown people in other countries with our money" and shut it down. Fuck all second and third order effects that actually benefited the US.