[nickysielicki]

can anyone compare the $200/mo codex usage limits with the $200/mo claude usage limits? It’s extremely difficult to get a feel for whether switching between the two is going to result in hitting limits more or less often, and it’s difficult to find discussion online about this.

In practice, if I buy $200/mo codex, can I basically run 3 codex instances simultaneously in tmux, like I can with claude code pro max, all day every day, without hitting limits?

[vtail]

My own experience is that I get far far more usage (and better quality code, too) from codex. I downgrade my Claude Max to Claude Pro (the $20 plan) and now using codex with Pro plan exclusively for everything.

[Marciplan]

Codex announced at 5.3 launch that until April all usage limits are upped so take that into account

[vtail]

that's a good point; hopefully they would just extend it automatically - but who knows...

[ritzaco]

I haven't tried the $200 plans by I have Claude and Codex $20 and I feel like I get a lot more out of Codex before hitting the limits. My tracker certainly shows higher tokens for Codex. I've seen others say the same.

[lostmsu]

Sadly comment ratings are not visible on HN, so the only way to corroborate is to write it explicitly: Codex $20 includes significantly more work done and is subjectively smarter.

[winstonp]

Agree. Claude tends to produce better design, but from a system understanding and architecture perspective Codex is the far better model

[tauntz]

I've only run into the codex $20 limit once with my hobby project. With my Claude ~$20 plan, I hit limits after about 3(!) rather trivial prompts to Opus :/

[gavinray]

I almost never hit my $20 Codex limits, whereas I often hit my Claude limits.

[CSMastermind]

Codex limits are much more generous than claude.

I switch between both but codex has also been slightly better in terms of quality for me personally at least.

[FergusArgyll]

Codex usage limits are definitely more generous. As for their strength, that's hard to say / personal taste

[mikert89]

I personally like the 100 dollar one from claude, but the gpt4 pro can be very good

[throwaway911282]

you get more more from codex than claude any day. and its more reliable as well.

[Marciplan]

sure can! One of them stood up to the “Department of War” for favoring your rights, the other did not. Hope that helps!

[cmrdporcupine]

Neither favoured my rights, as I don't have US citizenship, Dario thinks I have none.

So may as well use the one that gives me best value for money.

[dudeinhawaii]

This is marketing. The same way Apple cares about your privacy so long as they can wall you in their garden.

Not a value judgment, just saying that the CEO of a company making a statement isn't worth anything. See Googles "don't be evil" ethos that lasted as long as it was corporately useful.

If Anthropic can lure engineers with virtue signaling, good on them. They were also the same ones to say "don't accelerate" and "who would give these models access to the internet", etc etc.

"Our models will take everyone's jobs tomorrow and they're so dangerous they shouldn't be exported". Again all investor speak.