[sph]

Utter nonsense. I have replaced my ADHD prescription with nicotine patches, and in my experience I have had worse withdrawals, and greater desire to consume caffeine than either dermal nicotine or dexamfetamine. And I’m only a cup a day kinda guy, and I used to be a heavy smoker for years, so I know how dangerous the stuff can be.

If we’re talking about smoking or vaping, or nicotine pouches, sure, but mode of administration and how quickly it peaks in your bloodstream cannot be hand-waved away like that.

[jmye]

> mode of administration and how quickly it peaks in your bloodstream cannot be hand-waved away like that.

Then surely you have some evidence, especially that caffeine is more addictive, rather than "hand-waving it away" via personal anecdote?

[mikestew]

Utter nonsense

Got something other than anecdata? Because a web search returns a list of contrary sources as long as my arm.

But, hell, if we are trading stories, I dipped snuff for 30 years and I’ve consumed coffee since middle school. I can go days without coffee, even if I might not be happy about it. Quitting tobacco, OTOH, that was tough, with multiple starts and stops until success.

[sph]

Tobacco is not pure nicotine. If you can’t even get your basics straight, I’m not sure on what level we can even have a discussion about it.

Here’s from someone that knows what they’re talking about: https://gwern.net/nicotine