[iso-logi]

The term doesn't matter. If you haven't been approved to be in a country, you shouldn't be in said country.

You don't go walking into the Amazon Head Office and walk up to the Executives Offices. You aren't allowed, why do you think this is acceptable?

Sneaking into the office (country) and then benefiting seems not right, what am I missing?

[ncallaway]

A citizen is always someone who has a legal right to be in the country.

They may be imprisoned in the country if they have committed a crime, but a citizen always has a legal right to be in the country.

[nozzlegear]

All my ancestors had to do to become American citizens was get on a boat in Europe and not shit themselves to death by the time it arrived in New York. Why should it be any harder than that?

[iso-logi]

Society has changed. Laws practically didn't exist back then, should we go back to a near lawless society? Should we bring slavery back? Should we prevent woman from working, driving, voting?

[pixelatedindex]

Isn’t it a bit hypocritical to bring up laws, when the current administration really doesn’t adhere to them? Congress today barely does any work, Supreme Court is entirely partisan, and the president is taking bribes in the open.

In any case it’s not the deportation that most people necessarily have an issue with, it’s how they go about doing it. They even killed citizens in the process. Obama deported quite a few.

[nozzlegear]

You don't even know when my ancestors came over. Why do you think they were on the mayflower and not on a boat headed to Ellis island in the 1900s? We very much had laws back then, though appealing to the existence of immigration laws is a piss poor argument.

“Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice.” — Henry David Thoreau