[akdev1l]

MacOS is crazy efficient and can overcommit quite a lot.

I used an M1 Pro for a couple years to work. 8GB of ram but routinely using 12GB including swap.

Now, I couldn’t keep slack and outlook open so there were limitations but I was able to work. People are underestimating the usefulness of 8GB of RAM.

I guess it is also worth saying that I do my work by connecting to a remote server where I do the actual development and everything else. The Mac itself being a web browser and ssh machine

[MrDrMcCoy]

Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022.

[deepthaw]

I’m freaking out the equivalent of mutt and irc require more than 8GB of RAM to run simultaneously.

What are modern operating systems and applications doing?

[astrange]

You can post images in Slack and use text formatting. Those are things that use memory.

[abujazar]

Sloppy memory management is what uses memory. But those apps are in a class of their own, along with Electron apps.

[astrange]

Slack is an Electron app.

[jshen]

Gifs. I'm only half joking.

[akdev1l]

I used outlook on the browser when needed and slack was open most of the time

I also had around 200 tabs open on the regular

Now I wouldn’t tell you it was a good experience because it wasn’t. But it was usable even pushing the hardware to the max.

[Kirby64]

Children don't have Slack and Outlook open. Gmail in a web browser and Discord, maybe. My old M1 Air works just fine for productivity workloads, and has for years.

[vunderba]

Is Slack that much worse of a memory hog than Discord? Aren’t they both built on electron?

[Kirby64]

Not sure about slack vs discord, but browser Gmail is almost certainly less memory hungry than Outlook. And that’s probably enough of a difference by itself.

[alwillis]

You can make a pretty good electron app or one that kinda sucks. Slack is in the latter category.

[vunderba]

VS Code (or rather VSCodium in my case) is also electron based but it's been relatively snappy in my experience - though I don't use a lot of third party plugins.

[alwillis]

Say what you will about Microsoft but the performance of VS Code is really good.

[Schiendelman]

Do you actually have a problem with Slack and Outlook open at the same time on an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB of memory? Or are you assuming?

[MrDrMcCoy]

I was replying to someone that made that claim from apparent experience.

[briandear]

Not having to use outlook is a feature not a bug.

[Izikiel43]

> Not being able to keep Slack and Outlook open at the same time seems like a pretty significant productivity hindrance to me. 8GB RAM is truly pathetic in 2022.

I read this as how bad software quality has gone down, that a mail program and a chat program don't fit in 8GB of RAM.