[bluefirebrand]

> I read takes like this and I feel like it's gatekeeping

Yeah man, insisting on good engineering practices instead of "vibes" has always been gatekeeping

That's the actual point of engineering credentials

What are we even doing here

[DiscourseFan]

This was before the bot could competently code things. Software development is now a very different beast, and yes while there have been some very stupid and irresponsible uses of this new technology, many others are integrating it effectively into their workflows.

[bluefirebrand]

> This was before the bot could competently code things

Agree to disagree

Getting something working is the absolute bare minimum, it's not "competent"

[DiscourseFan]

The fact that it can, and often does, get things working, sometimes even well, is evidence enough. It can't do some things, it can easily do others, and knowing which is which is very important nowadays.

[bluefirebrand]

> The fact that it can, and often does, get things working, sometimes even well, is evidence enough

So can my 12 year old nephew, but we aren't racing to put him in charge of software development in professional settings

[noah-cavoli]

Hard disagree. Software engineering was never about writing code. It's not a completely different beast, not really. It's just way cheaper to write code now. And anyone who has been doing this for a long time already knows, more code usually = more problems