[eckelhesten]

Honestly I’d prefer Chinese backdoors over western ones. China is still a land far far away and I couldn’t care less about what they’d do with my data, unlike western alphabet boys who could freeze my accounts and assets for ”wrongthinking” in the future.

[richsouth]

THIS so much! I'm more at risk from the US and my own (UK) government than the Chinese, and in answer to the questions below: - No I don't know anyone from or in China - I'm highly unlikely to go anywhere near China (or fly over it, around it) - I'm poor

So unless my local Chinese takeaway is classed as Chinese soil, I'll more than happily buy my phone from there

Most phones are already made over there anyway so know knows what kind of backdoor, listening devices are coded into the chips they put into 'Western Company's' phones.

[tjpnz]

Just make sure you don't have any family in China and don't plan to transit through HK anytime in the future.

[rationalist]

One has to be careful when flying. Your flight's origin or destination might not be in China, and may not even be through Chinese airspace, but if there is an in-flight emergency, an airport in China might be the closest landing spot.

[iso-logi]

Occasionally, they'll "stage" an in-flight emergency, forcing a landing in China and arrest you.

The US invented it.

[margalabargala]

This isn't something the average random GrapheneOS user needs to worry about.

Doing this has a non negligible political cost. They would only do it for a high value target. If you're that person, you're presumably aware.

[rationalist]

The person(s)* this has happened to, was/were not aware.

* I only recall one news report of this happening years ago.

[mdni007]

I've been saying this for years and people thought I was going insane.