[throwup238]

> Out of all the comments on numbers, SREs, and scaling, you get the response for meeting numbers with numbers!

>> $120K isn't going to cover the fully loaded costs of an SRE who can set up and run that.

> Literally this. I can do SRE on-prem and cloud, and my 50/30/20 budget break-even point (as in, needs and savings but no wants - so 70%) is $170k before taxes. Rent is astonishingly high right now, and the sort of mid-career professional you want to handle SRE for your single DC is going to take $150k in this market before fucking off to the first $200k job they get.

That's $120k per pod. Four pods per rack at 50kW.

What universe are we living in that a single SRE can't manage even a single rack for less than half a million in total comp?

[stego-tech]

> What universe are we living in that a single SRE can't manage even a single rack for less than half a million in total comp?

The kind where TC isn’t measured by pod managed, but by person hired. Also the world where median rent in major metros is $3500 a month.

If you think $120k is rich, you’re either operating in the boonies, outside the USA/Canada, or incredibly out of touch with the cost of living today and need to seriously go study BLS/FRED/CPI data sets to understand how expensive it is to live right now.

[ragall]

> outside the USA/Canada

Indeed, there's no reason for a company to host this kind of batch compute in North America. You can get very good people in Eastern Europe at 1/3 the cost.

[Aurornis]

I like how this simple claim about being cheaper to self-host a single server has now escalated to opening an office in Eastern Europe and hiring people there to manage it.

[ragall]

The trend of opening offices in Europe started one year into Covid. I'm sure that there are companies that haven't opened an office there yet, but fewer than one might imagine.