[kelseyfrog]

Every death under socialism is attributed to socialism. Every death under capitalism is attributed to individual failing or inevitability. Please follow the rules.

[analognoise]

It’s a very convenient set of rules, that allow us to place all the deaths into another column in our tabulation.

[busterarm]

Socialism's high death toll is the _direct_ result of the _implementation_ of socialist policies. No other form of governance shares this honor.

[tombert]

Umm, I would argue that Fascism shares that honor actually.

[busterarm]

You mean the National Socialist party? Heh, no I don't think that Nazis were Socialists, but NSDAP certainly used socialist rhetoric to broaden the appeal of their party. In fact in Mein Kampf, Hitler makes the argument that Marxists merely hijacked Socialism and corrupted it.

In any case, I don't want to entertain horseshit. It turns out that if a significant part of your political ideology is about elevating one group of people at the expense of another, mass starvation and mass murder is an inevitable consequence.

The whole point about spotlighting catastrophically bad ideas is that hopefully nobody gets the stupid idea to try that shit again. Except here we are.

[analognoise]

Can you explain what “elevating one group of people at the expense of another” is, in the context of socialism? I don’t see the connection.

Are you saying the current fascist operating mode of Trump is the dumb shit we’re trying again (here, “we” being “humanity”), or something else?

Just trying to clarify, my bad if it’s poor reading on my part; I was just confused at the line being drawn.