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by samat 113 days ago
I downgraded today for the first time in my life. Sequoia is crazy fast in my MacBook Air m2 16gb

Not upgrading any of my Macs ever again. I was a fanboy looking for every new update like a present, for 13 years, not anymore. It took one Tahoe burn all that trust. Never upgrading major OS versions on hardware from Apple again.
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brucehoult 112 days ago
Sequoia is 15. I still have my M1 Mini on Sonoma 14.5.

It keeps nagging me to update to Tahoe.

Oh ... I just checked, and I could update to 14.8.4. Maybe that's safe.

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vunderba 112 days ago
Same. Been rocking Sonoma on my M1 Mac for years at this point and it’s been great. There’s been almost zero upsides to upgrading MacOS versions lately.
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JMiao 112 days ago
Why not Sequoia?
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brucehoult 112 days ago
None of the new features appeal to me.
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freefaler 113 days ago
When they force developers to upgrade the SDK some of the apps will stop working and you'd be forced to upgrade.

I've been holding out as you do for as long as I can but in 1-2 years the apps just stop working (some of them).

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abustamam 113 days ago
I think this could go equally for Windows as well, and many other software (not just OS). I purpose refrained from Tahoe because I didn't like the design but I wanted to know what the consensus was on it before upgrading. Apparently it's bad!

Win 11 is bad compared to Win 10 as well. I'm fairly new to Linux so I can't really form an opinion there.

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happymellon 112 days ago
> I think this could go equally for Windows as well

Absolutely. Why are all the buttons centred on the task bar for Windows 11? Violation of so many design rules. Literally the worst part of MacOS they took there which contradicted other reasons for the design. Throwing the mouse to the corner for a start button no longer works. I could go on.

> I'm fairly new to Linux so I can't really form an opinion there.

Gnome is great if you want something that gets out of your way. Some folks lament that its not as UI feature rich as KDE, but for me thats a bonus. The minimal UI combined with concentrating on UI features such as better mixed monitor scaling, etc. Love it.

KDE is extremely flexible, and featureful. You don't like the Windows default look and feel, make it a dock. Make it similar to Windows 8. Go wild. Not my thing these days but I can completely understand the draw to not be beholden to other peoples design choices if they don't fit your style.

I haven't used XFCE for a long time, as it didn't keep up with my high resolution monitors. But it was fast and flexible, and I hear that they are addressing this stuff now.

i3 was great. I drifted away during the great Wayland migration when i had to upgrade my laptop, found a bunch of neat updates to Gnome for my hardware, and just haven't found the time to return.

But the main point is that you are not forced into any one person/corporate point of view.

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theodric 112 days ago
> GNOME is great

For a different opinion, please see https://woltman.com/gnome-bad/

GNOME is extremely opinionated.

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happymellon 112 days ago
> Some folks lament that its not as UI feature rich as KDE, but for me thats a bonus.

Yep, I know it is opinionated and I really like a lot of their decisions. Most of what he says in that is "it doesn't clone Windows therefore it breaks my muscle memory". I don't care about your opinions and it isn't the same as mine.

But the best part is that it's optional.

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theodric 108 days ago
> the best part is that it's optional

Strange, I've had the GNOME conversation with three people and all of them brought up that it's "optional." Strangely coincidental.

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dormento 112 days ago
> Apple, the masters of UI, have wisely not forced the iPhone interface into MacOS.

oh no

(tbh surprisingly few references to Apple otherwise)

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